Monday, May 4, 2020

30 Mothers in 30 Days: Leah

Leah Julian was my 8th Great Grandmother. Eight generations, can you imagine that?  Still, with that many generations back in time, we have not made it to an immigrant. Just  a few generations beyond Ava though, we would.


I have blogged about Leah before. The link is below. In that post, I was exploring the idea that her second marriage was to a Catawba Indian, a scenario with which I am not in agreement.  The whole theory  seemed to be based on the man's surname "Crow".  While many Native American names were translated to their English version, the name Crow was not neccessarily Native American.




But this post is just looking at her as one of the many women who passed their dna and their heritage on to me.


Leah was born in Cecil County, Maryland to George Julian and Martha Denton in the year 1733.
To my great good fortune, much research has been done on Leah's paternal, Julian line. It's documented in history books and museums hold paintings of her, and therefore, my, ancestors. So I did not have to do any digging, but just follow casually along a well-paved path.

George Julian was actually born George De St. Julian to Pierre Rene De St. Julian II and his second wife, Mary Margaret Scotlay Bullock in 1706 at Bohemia Manor in Cecil County, Maryland. 

His father, Pierre Rene de St. Julian II was born in 1669 in Vitre, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France and died in 1745 in Winchester County, Virginia. 


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Painting attributed to be Pierre Rene St. Julian


Pierre had married first to Damaris Elizabeth Le Surrurier in Berkele, South Carolina. That marriage would produce 4 children and Damaris would die young. Pierre married second to Mary Margaret Scotlay Bullock while on the Island of Bermuda. Mary Margaret was not of French stock, but was a British girl. She was born in Bradford, Devon, England and would die in Virgina about 1750.

Mary Margaret was the daughter of Captain Stephen Bullock, who was the son of William Bullock. There was a relation to a Patience Painter or Paynter, who was either the wife or the mother of Stephen Bullock and the daughter of Captain Stephen Paynter. I've been reading in Olde Englishe some of chronicles of trade in Barbados and Bermuda, in which they were involved, living, trading, sailing back and forth from the Islands to South Carolina and Massachusetts and back to England.
Needless to say, I haven't acquainted the hay of it into a tight bundle. I do know their main product of trade was tobacco. Sorry for my family contributing to tobacco addiction guys. (Info from: Memorials of the Discovery and Early Settlement of the Bermudas.


Bermuda's History from 1800 to 1899


However, I've found several lineages to Sea Captains in my family tree. Perhaps thats why I am fortunate enough to never get seasick and my why my daughter loves cruises. 

Mary Margaret Scotlay Bullock de St. Julian was laid to rest in the old Opequan Cemetery in Kernstown, Frederick County, Virginia on June 29, 1750. As Leah's Grandmother, she would be my 10th Great Grandmother, so I honor her here too. 



Old Opequon Cemetery in Kernstown, Virginia - Find A Grave Cemetery



Upon looking up this old cemetery, I pleasantly discovered that she was not the only ancestor of mine who lived (and died) there.


Old Opequon Cemetery – Hamilton Historical Records



I recently discovered, through a Y-DNA test taken by a male cousin, that we are descendants of Jost Hite. I have been working on that one and a long, incomplete post has been placed on the back burner. In this old cemetery is the oldest marked gravesite in the entire Shenandoah Valley, which sheltered many of my predecessors before they came south to Carolina.

Oldest Existing Marked Grave Site in the entire Shenandoah Valley ...

This is the tombstone of the wife and children of Irishman, John Wilson. His wife was Mary Marquis Wilson, daughter of William Marquis and wife Margaret Colville. The unschooled Irishman scratched it into the limestone as "Marcus".

Not as much is known about Leah's mother, Martha Denton. It is known she was the daughter of James Denton and his wife, Martha Mills Thorne Denton. They were from the Maryland Colony, whether born there or not,  and later relocated to Long Island, Queens Colony, New York. They are most likely of British origins. Martha Mills Thorne Denton outlived her husband and died on Long Island in 1719.




York County, South Carolina, 1911, Map, Rand McNally, City of York ...

Leah Julians first husband was Nathaniel Irwin, an Irishman born in Glencoe, Ulster. He was much older than she, which was not a rare thing in those days. Nathaniel died in Yorkville, York, South Carolina in 1794. As they were married in Cecil, Maryland when Leah was but 15, and her father also removed to the Carolinas, they probably migrated together. 

George Julian was known as a loyalist. His property was confiscated and sold in 1788. He lived on Kings Creek in Guilford County, North Carolina. George was injured in the Battle of the Fort of Dorchester and died there. A lady named Jemima Ponde had testified that she saw him departe this life in early to mid-September of 1781. He was a member of the Creek Meeting House. 






Nathaniel Irwin, however, was a Patriot, as was his and Leah's son Colonel Alexander Irwin.
Nathaniel and Leah Irwin (later Erwin) would have 6 children: Sophia, Alexander, Abigail, James Locke, Nathaniel Jr and Susannah. Some sources only list 4.

After the death of Nathaniel Erwin, she would marry to a James Crow. That story is in my other post. 
She would pass away in 1794 in York County, South Carolina at the age of 61. The children of Nathaniel and Julian would move to Mecklenburg County, North Carolina and then to Morganton in Burke County, where the beautiful estate of my ancestor, Alexander Erwin still exists. 

Rest Sweetly Grandmother Leah Julian Erwin Crow, source of some of my French ancestry.




Sunday, May 3, 2020

30 Mothers in 30 Days: Lisha

Lisha Ramsey is one of those ancestors I know very little about.

6 Stem Mother's Day Red Rose Bouquets




Name:Lisha Ramsey
Gender:Female
Age:65
Birth Year:abt 1785
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1850:Burnsville, Anson, North Carolina, USA
Cannot Read, Write:Y
Line Number:23
Dwelling Number:741
Family Number:741
Household Members:

NameAge
Stark Ramsey77
Lisha Ramsey65
John Ramsey40
Tempy Ramsey20


She only appears by name in one census record, in Anson County, living in Burnsville Township. In this census we learn she was born around 1785, being 65 years old and she was born in North Carolina and could not read or write, unlike my previous two cited Mothers, Sarah Winfield Howell Davis and Martha "Patsy" Atkins Palmer. So she was of a different class.

She is living with her husband Starky "Stark" Ramsey, who may have been John Starkey Ramsey, age 77. Neither of them make it to 1860.

Living with them is their son, John Jackson "Jack" Ramsey and his wife Temperance "Tempy" Mullis Ramsey.


Stark Ramsey had at least 2 daughters, but I've only discovered the name of one of them, Harriett, who married Jackson Trull of Union County. But he also had a large number of sons.



Anson County, NC Genealogy & History




The Ramseys lived in Anson County, just south of the Rocky River and the county line and near to it's border with Union. Some of his children ended up in Union County, and others, like my line, Samuel Ramsey, ended up in Stanly.

I don't even know that much about Stark. He shows up first in the 1800 census of Anson and has some grants from the late 1790's, adjoining a John Ramsey, whom I believe was his father, as he was an older man. There was also a connection to a Richard Ramsey, born in 1771 and a Samuel Ramsey, born in 1776. As Stark was born in 1773, I believe these to be his brothers. There was also a Richard Johnson, whose wife, Erexena Ramsey, was born in 1775 in Anson County, who may have been his sister.

I think that Stark was born in one of the coastal counties and there may have been a connection to the Starkey family there. They were of Scotch origin and possibly part of the Argylle Colony who came up the Cape Fear River and then westward into Anson.




Marker: K-51




Below is a list of Starks known children. Notice that I did not say Lisha. It's a possibility that she was a second wife and not the mother of most of his children. The dash census records seem to indicate the death of an older wife and the acquiring of a younger.

The name Annis echos among the children and grandchildren of Stark Ramsey, and is not a common one as Mary or Elizabeth, so possibly his first wife was named Annis and these granddaughters were named for her. It apppears she may also have been a Pistole.

So Lisha may not be my 5th Great Grandmother, at all, but my 5th Great Step-Grandmother, instead.

Several of Starks sons bore family names as given names, so the possibility of multiple wives exists and these names could be surnames of forebears beyond. Or not. Not one of Starks children named a son Starkey, which was his actual name as it is seen that way at times.

Below is the known list of children:

Unknown oldest daughter
1792 Gilbert
1798 Joseph
1799 Samuel
1805 Holden
1810 Robert
1811 Harriett
1812 Hubbard
1813 John Jackson "Jack"
1816 Sanders Taylor
1819 Clement
1820 James

In the 4 years between Samuel and Holden, there may have been a changing of the wives, or between the 5 years separating Holden and Robert.

Samuel Ramsey would marry Rebecca Helms, daughter of Tillman Helms and Mary Elizabeth Presley and become by 4th Great Grandparents, being buried at St. Martin Church in Stanly County, NC.

As for Stark and Lisha, I don't know where they are buried. Most likely in Anson County and most likely in a cemetery associated with the old Rocky River Church where he was associated. Starks' last mention was in 1858 and Lisha sometime before 1850.

Rest In Peace Dear Lisha Ramsey, my 5th Great or Step-Great Grandmother.


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