Tuesday, July 22, 2014

From the Wilmington Morning Star

The Wilmington Morning Star
(Wilmington, North Carolina)
8 March 1882 • Page 1

This clipping from the  March 8, 1882 edition of  The Wilmington Morning Star caught my attention for a number of reasons.

First, it made mention of Stanly County, North Carolina, and the towns of Norwood and Albemarle within.
Second, it made mention of J. F. Ramsey, who holds a place in my family tree, and who had passed away on my birthday.

It was heartwarming to see the compliment toward the grains and soil of Stanly County, with it being "the greatest grain producer of any land in the State". Reason, no doubt, why not all of its citizens relocated to Arkansas, as the 1880's were a big decade for migration there.

I was glad to have found the mention of J. F. Ramsey's decease, because in examining the family trees on Ancestry.com, no one had discovered the date of his demise and just noted that he had passed prior to the 1900 census.

J. F. Ramsey was John Franklin Ramsey, son of Samuel Ramsey and Rebecca Helms, my fifth great-grandparents. His older sister, Obedience "Beedy" Ramsey, was my fourth great-grandmother of course. She married William Hill and they were the parents of  William Mathew Hill. He married Sarah Jane Hooks and they became the parents of Lottie Hill.

Lottie Hill 001
She married Harvey Lafayette Lemmons and they were the parents of Bertha Virginia Lemmons Lambert, my grandmother, who lived to meet my three oldest children.

But back to her Uncle, John Franklin Ramsey.

I've wanted to explore the Hooks, Ramsey's and Hills more in depth, and will soon. As far as the Ramsey line, I have become stuck with the parents of Samuel Ramsey, Stark and Lisha, who appear in the 1850 census. If anyone knows anything at all about this couple, or this family, I would certain enjoy the enlightenment.

John Franklin Ramsey was born about 1836 to 1840. He was Samuel and Rebecca's  next to the youngest son. The list of their children is as follows:

1824 - 1865  William Riley Ramsey
1829 - 1870   Rowena J Ramsey Whittington
1825 - 1900  Obedience L. "Beedy" Ramsey Hill (later married sister's widower James Whittington
1830 - 1924  Jane Louisa Ramsey Smith
1834 - 1907  James Thomas Ramsey
1837 - 1882  John Franklin Ramsey
1837 - unknown  Gilliam O Ramsey (perhaps shortly after Civil War)

John Franklin "Frank" Ramsey first shows up still living with his parents in the 1850 census.

Name:Franklin Ramsey
Birth Year:abt 1836
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1850:Smiths, Stanly, North Carolina
Family Number:640
Household Members:
Samuel Ramsey53
Rebecca Ramsey53
William Ramsey23
Jane Ramsey17
Thomas Ramsey16
Franklin Ramsey14
Gilliam Ramsey13

All of the known children are still at home, except older sister Rowena, who has already married James Whittington.

Name:Roenna Whittendon
Birth Year:abt 1829
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1850:Smiths, Stanly, North Carolina
Family Number:711
Household Members:
James Whittendon23
Roenna Whittendon21

They all live in the Smith's community of Stanly County, North Carolina, which I believe, but am not certain, was in the southwest section of the county.

He may have moved to Rowan County for a brief time by 1860, and enlisted in the army in Salisbury in 1862.
Name:John Ramsey
Residence:Stanly County, North Carolina
Enlistment Date:1 Feb 1862
Enlistment Place:Rowan County, North Carolina
Side Served:Confederacy
State Served:North Carolina
Service Record:Enlisted as a Sergeant on 1 February 1862 at the age of 24.
Enlisted in Company C, 42nd Infantry Regiment North Carolina on 1 Feb 1862.
Promoted to Full Private (Reduced to ranks) on 1 Jul 1862.
Promoted to Full Sergeant (Estimated day and month of promo) on 15 Oct 1862.
 All of the Ramsey sons enlisted and served in the army. Frank and Thomas returned. William, the oldest son, had a very unique story. He was injured and ill, sent to the hospital and eventually to the Insane Asylum in Raleigh, where he disappeared in the fall of 1864. He made it back home to his family, as youngest daughter Margaret was born in 1865. His family had relocated to Burke County, North Carolina by 1870, by which time he was deceased. It is not known if he found his family in Stanly County before relocating to the mountains, or whether they met him there.

Youngest son Gilliam O Ramsey achieved the rank of 2nd Leut. and may have passed away prior to ever returning home, or died of disease or infection after his release from service.

Name:Gilliam O Ramsey
Residence:Stanly County, North Carolina, North Carolina
Age at Enlistment:22
Enlistment Date:29 Jul 1861
Rank at enlistment:3rd Lieutenant
Enlistment Place:Stanly County, North Carolina
State Served:North Carolina
Survived the War?:Yes
Service Record:Commissioned an officer in Company D, North Carolina 28th Infantry Regiment on 29 Jul 1861.Promoted to Full 2nd Lieutenant on 12 Jul 1862.Mustered out on 28 Dec 1862.
Birth Date:abt 1839
Sources:North Carolina Troops 1861-65, A Roster

On November 22, 1868, J. F. Ramsey married Joyce Ann Redwine, from the Fork Community of Montgomery County, daughter of James and Rinda Redwine. By 1870, their first child Ella, had been born. Ella never married and remained in the company of her mother her entire life. 
Name:J F Ramsey
Age in 1870:33
Birth Year:abt 1837
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1870:Albemarle, Stanly, North Carolina
Post Office:Albemarle
Value of real estate:View image
Household Members:
J F Ramsey33
J A Ramsey22
Ella J Ramsey5/12
Nancy Holt23
In 1870 is where the family of Uncle Frank collides with my research on the Holts and my posts on Balaam A Carter. Living with Frank and Joicy at this time is Nancy Arrana Holt. She, like the other Holt children, were dispersed through the community after the deaths of their parents in the 1850's, some to relatives, others to families with no apparent relation. Nancy Arrana Holt was the sister of Alvina Holt Carter, the first wife of Balaam A. Carter.

Balaam Carter and Alvina Holt Carter

The next year, on January 12, 1871, Nancy would marry John Riley Hinson. They would have 4 children together: 1873 Sophronia A. , 1875  Cora Bell, 1878 Ella J and 1880 Hattie Lee.

Name:J. F. Ramsey
Birth Year:abt 1837
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1880:Albemarle, Stanly, North Carolina
Relation to Head of House:Self (Head)
Marital Status:Married
Spouse's Name:Ramsey
Father's Birthplace:North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace:North Carolina
Neighbors:View others on page
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Household Members:
J. F. Ramsey43
Ella Ramsey11
Lizzie Ramsey10
Willie Ramsey3
Sam L. Ramsey6m

By 1880, all of Frank and Joyce Ann's children had been born: Ella Jane, Sarah Elizabeth aka "Lizzie", Willie Mae (a daughter) and only son, Samuel Lee Ramsey, named for his grandfather.

J F Ramsey

In 1876, J F Ramsey was paid a small stipend for service to the county of Stanly. 

Land records involving J. Frank Ramsey include a transaction in 1868 between his brother J. T. (James Thomas) Ramsey to him, involving a tract of land containing 136 1/2 acres along the courses of Mill Branch. Neighbors mentioned by a line or a corner were: Elizabeth Lowder, John B. Simpson, Thomas Lowder, Stephen York and Wiley Hudson. 

Then in 1872, J F Ramsey and wife J. A. Ramsey "hereby donate and give" to J. T. Ramsey, the same property of 136 1/2 acres, from a stake in Mill Branch. Neighbors mentioned were: Elizabeth Lowder, John B. Simpson's now Thomas Lowders line, David Coley, Stephen York, Wiley Hinson. 

Backing up to January of 1869, J T and J F Ramsey sold to George Smith and wife, who was their sister Louisa Jane Ramsey Smith, their share of a tract of land belonging to the heirs of G. O. Ramsey. G. O. was their youngest brother, who served well in the Civil War. The tract was the same conveyed from James Thomas Ramsey to his younger brother, Gilliam O. Ramsey, ten years prior, in 1859. The deed was signed by J. T. Ramsey and wife Elizabeth and J. F. Ramsey and wife Joicy. 

In November of 1877, J. F. Ramsey signed a mortgage due Columbus Whitley for $9.50. 

Shortly thereafter, he mortgaged a buggy to Jesse C. Gilbert for $5.00. 

On July 16, 1880, he sold a lot of 3 1/2 acres to Davidson Mann that was on a line between his own property and Mann's that adjoined the David Holt line. Proximity to the Holts may have been the reason Nancy Arrana Holt had ended up with them in 1870.

Joyce Ann Redwine Ramsey continued to appear in the land records following her husbands demise. About 1890, she appeared in a list of property owners along and through whose property, right of way was granted to the Yadkin railway. We know from the census, that she had removed to Salisbury by then. 

Then in 1903, she, along with her siblings and their spouses, sold their shares of property inherited from their parents to her sister and brother-in-law, Ann Eliza and Julius Coggins. The document is in Book 29, Page 100 and dated January 9, 1903 and lists as parties of the first part, Sarah R. Smith, widow of the County of Stanly, North Carolina; J. M. Coggins and wife M. A. Coggins (who is Myrick Adeline Coggins, who later signs her name 'Addie'.); J P Redwine and wife, R. A. Redwine and Joicy A Ramsey, widow of the County of Rowan, State of North Carolina and Julius Coggins and wife Anna Eliza Coggins of the county of Stanly, state of North Carolina, of the second part.

And then came the mention  from the Wilmington paper. In the growing and developing town of Albemarle, J F Ramsey, passed away. The paper stated he was 40, but he was probably closer to 43 to 45 years of age. 

His widow Joyce Ann "Joicy" Redwine Ramsey did not stay idle. She relocated with her children to the Salisbury/Spencer area of Rowan County, which with the growing railway industry was bustling with activity and even professions a lady could endeavor. As her brothers, JP and RA and sister Myrick Adeline Coggins, are all listed as being from Rowan in the 1903 land transaction, following the 1899 death of their father, it could have been the fact that family had settled in Rowan that led Joicy Ann to the neighboring county.

Name:Mrs Joicy Ramsey
Residence Year:1907
Street address:728 s Main
Residence Place:Salisbury; Spencer, North Carolina
Publication Title:Salisbury, North Carolina, City Directory, 1907

The City Directories would find her living on South Main Street, which in Salisbury leads into Spencer. 
Her daughter Ella Jane would be listed for most years as a Weaver at Salisbury Mills, while her mother took in boarders.
Name:Joy A Ramsey
Residence Year:1928
Street address:828 s Main
Residence Place:Salisbury; Spencer, North Carolina
Spouse:Frank Ramsey
Publication Title:Salisbury, North Carolina, City Directory, 1928
In 1900, Joicy was living in Salisbury along with daughters Ella and Lizzie and only son Sam. Also joining the family was newborn grandson, Charlie Ramsey, who would later become Charles Basil Surratt, after his mother married Pegram A. Surratt, a local businessman born in Jackson Hill, Davidson County, who migrated to Texas, and eventually settled back in Rowan County. All of Charlie's documents name P. A. Surratt as his father, whether adopted or biological is unknown.

Name:Joicie Ramsay
[Joieu A Ramsay] 
Birth Date:May 1847
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1900:Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina
Relation to Head of House:Head
Marital Status:Widowed
Father's Birthplace:North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace:North Carolina
Mother: number of living children:4
Mother: How many children:4
Occupation:View on Image
Neighbors:View others on page
Household Members:
Joicie Ramsay53
Ella J Ramsay30
Elizabeth S Ramsay30
Samuel S Ramsay20
Charlie Ramsay3/12
James P Redvine48
Maddie Redvine11
John Eddleman30
Adam Norton31
Dennis Myrick18
Also living with Joicy and her children are brother James P. Redwine and his ll year old daughter,  Maddie. There are also 3 non-related boaders, young men who all worked in the Cotton Mill along with her 3 children: John Eddleman, Adam Norton, and Dennis Myrick.  Brother Jim Redwine was a Carpenter.

Name:Joicy A Ramsay
Age in 1910:62
Birth Year:abt 1848
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1910:Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina
Relation to Head of House:Head
Marital Status:Widowed
Father's Birthplace:North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace:North Carolina
Neighbors:View others on page
Household Members:
Joicy A Ramsay62
Ella J Ramsay36
Elzabeth Ramsay34
Charlie Ramsay10
By 1910, Joicy is listed as a "General Manager" of "Housework", and her only co-residents are daughters Ella and Lizzie, who are weavers in the Cotton Mill. Grandson Charlie Ramsey is now 10. Of note is that they live beside of Benjamin F. Rabon and his wife Hattie, who is Joicy's niece. The census also tells us that Joicy owns her own home outright, no mortage, on 3 acres and that she is considered blind by the age of 62.
Daughter Willie Mae has already married a Smith and son Sam is out on his own. Later this year, Lizzie married P. A. Surratt. Ella never marries.

Name:Joysia Ramsay
[Joyce Ramsay] 
[Joseph Ramsay] 
Birth Year:abt 1848
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1920:Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina
Relation to Head of House:Mother-in-law
Marital Status:Widowed
Father's Birthplace:North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace:North Carolina
Neighbors:View others on page
Household Members:
Pigram A Surratt51
Lizzie Surratt48
Joysia Ramsay72
Ella Ramsay47
Charlie Surratt19
Ida M Surratt8
William Lippard24
Claud Lippard22
John Eddleman50
Badge Ballard33
In the 1920 census, son-in-law Pegram A. Surratt has taken over the boarding house and is listed as a Merchant in a grocery store. Daughter Lizzie is a clerk in the same store. Joicy is too old to work and Ella is still a weaver in the Cotton Mill. Charlie, Lizzie's son, had now taken on the name "Surratt" and is working with his aunt in the Cotton Mill. Ida Mae, the only daughter of Pegram and Lizzie, has joined the family. She was born in Texas. Pegram may have met Lizzie on one of his many visits home, and married her, taking her back to Texas, where he was a Hog Farmer, for awhile. By 1920, however, the family had relocated back to North Carolina. Also in the home were 4 boarders, brothers William and Claud Lippard, who are listed as clerks in a dry goods store and John Eddleman and Badge Ballard, who worked in the Cotton Mill.
Name:Joyce A Ramsay
Birth Year:abt 1848
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1930:Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina
Map of Home:View Map
Marital Status:Widowed
Relation to Head of House:Head
Father's Birthplace:North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace:North Carolina


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Neighbors:View others on page
Household Members:
Joyce A Ramsay82
Ella J Ramsay61
Pegram A Sarratt62
Sarah E Sarratt59
Badge C Ballard40
John Eddleman55
The 1930 census was Joicy's last census and year. She is listed as head of the household, which suggests that son-in-law Pegram had moved into the same boarding house on South Main, that Joicy had been operating. Ella is now also retired and Pegram and Lizzie are still operation their store. Children Charlie are grownup now, with Ida having moved in with relatives in Davidson County, and Charlie married with 2 children of his own. Boarders John Eddleman and Badge Ballard are still in the home, Badge now a cobbler in a shoe shop and John still working in the mill. 

Soon after the 1930 census, Joyce Ann Redwine Ramsey aka "Joicy" passed away, on May 20th or 21st. She was buried in Salisbury at the Chestnut Hill Cemetery. It is unknown where her husband Frank was buried. None of the older members of the household made it to 1940. Daughter Ella Jane died in 1935, and was buried alongside her mother. 

 Joyce Ann Ramsey
Her death certificate lists her age as 82 years and 11 months and the cause of death a pulminary hemorrhage, with contributing factors related to age. 

Daughter Lizzie died in May of 1834, after which her husband, Pegram relocated his store to Elizabeth City, North Carolina, which did not last long, as he passed away in 1936, and was brought back to Salisbury to be buried with his wife at Chestnut Hill.  His death certificate said that he passed away of M. S. and muscular atrophy, so he must have had difficulty running his business in his latter years. 

Elizabeth <i>Ramsey</i> SurrattPegram A. Surratt

The passing of Joicy and her daughters was the end of an era in that Ramsey line. However, the story did not end there. My next post will be to look more in depth to the children and boarders of Joicy Ann Redwine Ramsey.

I was glad to have found an obituary and therefore a date of death for "Uncle Frank". So many times, ancestors who passed away prior to death certificates, or whose tombstones were destroyed or lost are listed without a date of death. Now, for John Franklin Ramsey, we have one.

Willie Mae Ramsey Smith (left) with daughter, Nessie Izetta Smith
Willie Mae Ramsey Smith and her daughter Nezzie Smith. 


  1. I'm stunned. I'm a descendent of Rowena and James Whittington (Whittendon). They've been hard to find.

  2. James and Rowena Whittington are my 4th great grandparents on my paternal grandmothers side. Hello Cousins!!!

    1. This Beadie Mary Simpson Helms was most likely named after her Great-Aunt Obedience L. "Beedy" Ramsey Hill (who later married her sister's widower James Whittington)1824-1900.

  3. It seems everyone is Welsh/English/Quakers from Maryland and German Lutherans from Pennsylvania.

  4. John Franklin's older brother, James Thomas Ramsey, is buried here in Oakboro, NC at St. Martin's Lutheran:

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    1. I'm beginning to think Gilliam O. Ramsey's middle name was "Obedience" as well. They seem to use the same reverent names on both sides. Wesley "Devotion" Whittington. James,Franklin,Mattie,Winnie,Jane,Beadie spelled 3 ways.

    2. William Riley Ramsey named his eldest son "William Owen Ramsey" so, Gilliam O. may have been Gilliam Owen Ramsey?

  6. "Bedy" L. in 1860 census with first husband William Hill.


    B.L. Whittington with James Whittington in 1880 census.

    Beadie and James living with Margaret and William Hill's daughter Margaret Due. The age is in error. Beadie was just few years older than James.